Category: General

Based on a lot of comments I’ve been both hearing and getting because of the sequestration, it has occurred to me that John Q. Public (and the media) really aren’t aware of just how much Defense really has been cut before now, and for how long before now as well.  To understand where we are and even where we could go from here, it probably is important to understand where we’ve been also.  This is just my own slice of history, just what I’ve seen…but nearly everyone in the armed services or associated with them will have similar stories to tell.

I joined the Navy in 1991, during the first Gulf War.  I went to boot camp in Orlando, FL.  At that time, there were three operating boot camps; now there is only one, the other two were closed in BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) rounds.

I went to initial Avionic Technican training in Millington, TN.  At that time, three aviation electronics ratings (AT, AQ and AX) were being merged into one – one of the first signs of my times, of  ‘doing more with less’.  Millington also got hit by BRAC later, though part of the base is still being used (they moved the detailers there, from Washington DC; and moved the schools down to Pensacola; and gave up the airfield).

I attended two schools for the AT rating; the first was 26 weeks long, and the second was 13 weeks long.  Now, the training for the first one is under 15 weeks (cost-cutting), and the second one I went to no longer exists at all (cost-cutting).  (

In 1992 I graduated the last of the initial-training schools and went on to the school for the aircraft I’d be working on in the fleet, the P-3 Orion.  At that time there were two schools for P-3 pilots, naval flight officers, aircrew and maintainers; one on the west coast at Moffett Field, and one on the east coast at Jacksonville.  There were also multiple operational squadrons at Moffett at the time.  Word came down even before we graduated that Moffett (along with the rest of the bases in the San Francisco area such as Alameda and Treasure Island) was hit in the BRAC and would be closing.  Some of the squadrons would be moving to join the ones based in Hawaii at NAS Barbers Point, some to Whidbey Island Washington, and the others would be disestablished.  One of the last things I did at that base was to work its final airshow.

Like many, I’d always thought of the military as having the best/newest of everything; the P-3 was a real eye-opener in that regard.  Originally put into service in the 1960’s (and based on a 1950’s commercial-airliner airframe, the Lockheed Electra), this aircraft was already scheduled for service-life replacement by the early 1990’s; some of them were already older than both the people flying them and maintaining them (while Lockheed did continue to make them for foreign militaries, the last one delivered to the US military was in 1990).  However, the replacement (the P-7) was cancelled (cost-saving) and efforts were instead turned to keeping the existing ones going as long as possible.  According to Wikipedia, “during 2012, it (P-3) joined the handful of military aircraft including the B-52 and KC-135 that have served 50 years of continuous use by the US military”.  ( and  The follow-up replacement is just now hitting the fleet with three delivered in the past year, but cuts could threaten it as well (

So – I graduated P-3 maintenance school and was given orders to VP-22, NAS Barbers Point, Hawaii.  Went immediately on deployment, and when we returned from that deployment in 1993, we were told that we were getting the axe, the squadron was being decommissioned.  The personnel and aircraft were divided up among other squadrons; some older aircraft were retired or put in mothballs and many personnel were given an ‘early out’ option (option to leave the Navy before their enlistment was up).  High-year-tenure and being passed for promotion (move up or move out) also became an issue at this time for both officers and enlisted, further reducing manpower.

I went to VP-17 after the decommissioning, and right back out on deployment; and just before the 1994 deployment, we got word that VP-17 was also getting decommissioned.  Same story, different day…personnel and aircraft were again divvied up between the remaining squadrons, with some again getting out of the Navy in the process.  (A good picture of just how many Navy squadrons have been deactivated can be found here:

Went to VP-9 and again immediately back out on deployment.  This time the squadron didn’t get axed from under me, but the base did; NAS Barbers Point was selected in the next BRAC round, and the remaining squadrons were slated to be moved in with the Marines at MCAS Kaneohe Bay.  By this point, we were not ‘at war’ but the drawdowns meant that the operational tempo was more grueling than it was when we had been – even when not on deployment, we had very little time off and 6-7 day workweeks even at home were the rule rather than the exception.  (Sailors typically work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week while on a deployment; and of course do not get paid overtime).

Naval aviation as a whole also trimmed down significantly across the board during this period; phasing out aging single-role aircraft in favor of multi-role versions.  The F-14 Tomcat and A-6 Intruder were both replaced with the F/A-18.  Different models of helicopters across all services were replaced with the xH-60 (Blackhawk, Seahawk).  The S-3 Viking was eliminated.  This streamlining attempt has also continued into the present day, with the Joint Strike Fighter; an attempt to provide the same aircraft to all services, in all types of roles.  These combinations and standardizations were also intended as a cost-cutting measure; it’s nearly always cheaper to stock replacement parts for one or two aircraft types than for five or six.   The tradeoff of course is that a multi-role aircraft is rarely as good as a single-role one; just as with home electronic devices, really.  A camera integrated into a cell phone (multi-function device) is not going to be as good taking photos as a digital camera (purpose-built for that one function), a multi-function scanner/printer is rarely as good as a dedicated flatbed scanner and printer by themselves are, etc.

I got out of the Navy in 2000, and went to work first as a contractor (to the Navy) and later as Civil Service (at the same command where I took my own initial aviation electronics training).  It actually took six years for my job to become permanent, however; multiple hiring freezes and budget cuts were the reason.  Being under a Commercial Activities Study was another reason for the delay (CA study, sometimes called A-76 studies after the OMB circular that calls for them; basically they are a periodic ‘competition’ for government jobs that are not defined as inherently governmental in nature, and typically result in job cuts even if the government ‘wins’ the competition and jobs are not outsourced to contractors), and a reorganization and attempt to streamline/consolidate Navy support commands was yet another reason.  The number of students we train for their Navy jobs hasn’t been reduced significantly in the past ten years; but our manpower (military and civilian) across the board definitely has been.

The point of all the above is not to say that there is nothing possibly left to be cut; it is just to illustrate that cuts have been happening all along (which it seems like many were completely unaware of, understandably if not directly affected).  And also to illustrate that the Dept of the Navy at least hasn’t just been getting ever more bloated over the past two decades; all along the way it has been reducing and streamlining both its equipment and personnel.  Some of today’s costs are in fact a direct result of putting off past repairs and replacements, due to past budget cuts.  Some of tomorrow’s costs will be the direct result of putting off today’s repairs and replacements as well.  The P-3’s replacement figures prominently in the current budget (, and the reason it’s there now is a direct result of cuts that were made 20 years ago.

So, what would I identify as issues myself?  Obviously I’m not high up enough in this system to have the total picture from where I am, but there are a few things that I think we could improve on.  One was the huge push towards contracting (jobs, services, etc) in the 2000’s, partially as a result of all the manpower cuts before that, and partially as a future-savings initiative (not having to pay pensions to contractors).  An interesting article from 2007:

On the face of it, contracting a job or service often seems like a big cost savings; you don’t have to pay a contractor a retirement, or offer them healthcare coverage like you do a civil servant or military member.  On paper, they can appear to save lots of money.  The reality however is that there will be costs that never show up on paper, or don’t show up until much later.  A defense contractor is in business to make money, full stop.  They’re not going to pay their employees in proportion to what the government is paying to have them as employees; because they are in business to make a profit.  One article I found while researching the overall personnel makeup of the service indicates that overall, contractors actually cost 3x more than civil service civilians do:

And the employees themselves are presented with divided loyalties upfront; do they do their best to please the client, or their direct employer?  Which side should they support if there is a conflict between what the direct employer (the contract company) says, and what the government client wants done?  They have less job security (always a tense time whenever contracts are up for renewal), less pay and benefits, and are given virtually no incentive to provide a level of work (quality or amount) beyond the basic.  Contractors also require oversight and QA that regular gov’t employees do not (because regular employees are already overseen by their direct chain of command).  And if you need something extra done, you can task a servicemember or civil servant with it; but you cannot do the same with a contractor, not without first negotiating extra payments for the extra work.  (Which is actually there to protect the contractor, really – to keep the government from requiring more from them than was bid/agreed upon in the contract.)

There certainly are jobs and services that contractors can provide as efficiently as (or even more efficiently than) military or civil service can; the problem is that too often only the bottom line is looked at (the numbers on paper) and not the overall benefit/drawback when considering whether a job or service is best provided by a servicemember, a civilian or a contractor.  Sometimes the bottom line is actually just what pot of money it will come from; this pot has a bit more in it this time, so we’ll go this way regardless of whether it’s actually better.

The next is, stop underestimating the dollar value of human traits such as loyalty when calculating ‘efficiency’.  That speaks to the above (contracting) as well as to past and future efforts to consolidate jobs/services.  A good example; after I got out (thankfully!), an idea was put forth and implemented in the P-3 community; consolidated maintenance.  Instead of having maintenance personnel assigned to specific squadrons, and aircraft assigned to specific squadrons, instead all aircraft and maintainers were put into one pool.  Having 100 maintainers in one pool certainly sounds more efficient than having 25 of them in four separate pools does; but in reality, it isn’t for several reasons.  One is the loss of pride of ownership.  Another is not getting to know the quirks of ‘your’ birds (aircraft) as well when you’re maintaining 36 of them vs. 9 (and they all have their own quirks, just as cars do).

But the biggest potential factor again is divided loyalty.  When your squadron skipper’s flight is being delayed because of unscheduled maintenance, the ripples reach down to the maintainers in that squadron very quickly (you can’t provide much more by way of motivation if you are in the military, than to have your Commanding Officer literally standing over you while you’re working and asking when you’re going to have his airplane fixed).  But when that same squadron skipper isn’t ‘your’ skipper any longer, and when you have four of them all wanting the same thing at the same time, it’s pretty natural to feel a bit more detached about whether they all get what they want as quickly as you can give it to them.  It sort of becomes not your problem, because you’re not part of the same team in the same way any more, and it can turn into ‘us vs. them’.  The same is true anywhere else in the military that separates support services from the commands they are supporting, really.  Any who were in the service themselves can tell you which was typically better – the support you got from a PSD that is serving multiple commands (and answers to none of them), or the support you got from admin personnel who were actually assigned to your command.  It might seem on the surface that idle time can be minimized by consolidating and having 20 people in one command support 800 people in 4 commands, but overall I’m not sure any efficiency is really gained there over just having 5 people supporting 200 when it is within the same organization.  When you take people off the ‘team’, you can’t expect them to retain the same view of the ‘team goal’ that they had when they were actually part of that particular team.  You can’t expect them to still care as much about what another team’s goal is once they’re completely outside it, that’s just not part of basic human nature.  And team goals are a very essential part of how the military gets things done in the first place, and always has been.

Another past and future issue is one of leadership and promotion, and this one is rather thorny in nature.  Stay in or around the service long enough, and you’ll see all kinds of ‘ideas’ come and go as the upper-echelon leaders come and go; and stay around long enough and you’ll even see some of the same ideas come around a second time.  A lot of this probably goes back into the ‘move up or move out’ concept – how does one Admiral/General distinguish his/her leadership from their predecessor?  How do they make their mark?  And unfortunately, the issue that rarely gets as much scrutiny is – how much is them ‘making their mark’ going to cost us in the end, and is/was it really necessary at all?  What about, ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it?’  But of course, not ‘fixing’ something isn’t going to look that great to a promotion board.  How do you tell the difference between ‘this person was smart enough to realize that things were working smoothly and were as efficient as they could be already, and that messing with it would likely be counterproductive, so they wisely left it alone’, and ‘this person was too lazy/incompetent to look for improvements, so none were suggested or made’?  Unfortunately I don’t have a good answer for that either, all I can say is that it has in the past wasted a whole lot of Defense money.  Money will be poured into some new idea to ‘fix’ something that really wasn’t broken to begin with; and then even more money will be poured into putting it back the way it was before.  We’ve seen it happen repeatedly.

Another issue that I found in an article, given by a past Secretary of the Navy and a past CNO was procurement (  Can’t really comment on it much since I’ve never been involved in that process; but I’d expect the folks quoted to have a good enough idea of what they’re talking about; and at this point, they shouldn’t have any personal axes to grind nor particular pet projects to protect.

Yet another issue is one where the cost is saved in one place and really can’t be easily quantified in the place where the cost is being passed on; and that is, training vs. how those personnel are used when they get to the fleet.  If you have permanent TAD (Temporarily Assigned Duty) positions and you are filling them with junior personnel who were trained for another job specialty entirely, you’re wasting a lot of those training dollars.  When you have standing requirements to provide a body to the base fuel farm, and a body to base Hazmat, and a body to the wash rack, and bodies to the line shack, tool room, galley, etc – find ways to fill them that don’t waste the training dollars you spent on those people.  You only have a limited time to get the specific work out of them that you trained them for as it is.  Depending on their sea/shore rotation and the promotion potential for their rate, you may only have one or two sea tours for them to actually be turning wrenches – because by the time they get to their second or third tour, they could be an E-6 (I was myself, by my second tour if I’d stayed in).  At that point, you do still get the benefit of their expertise/experience, but you’ll be using them in supervisory/auxiliary roles, they won’t be out there turning wrenches in most cases.  They’ll be a shop supervisor, or QA rep.  If you want better efficiency, just cutting training time isn’t much help if you’re not having them put that training to use 100% when they get to the fleet.  By the time they’ve spent 3 to six months (or more) working TAD completely outside their rating specialty, how much do you think they’ll even remember of their training?

And for the Navy and Marine Corps especially – for God’s sake find a way to bite the bullet and get rid of NMCI.   Stop dismissing the very real problems and very real loss of productivity from it as being merely ‘disgruntled users’ who were simply unhappy with the level of standardization and control that came with it.  Even outside IT professionals are not impressed with what billions of dollars are getting us IT-wise:  You can’t tell me that the Navy can’t do a better job on its own, and more cheaply too.



Funny, what motivates one to finally join the blog-o-sphere.  But sometimes, you just can’t fit what you’d like to say in 140 characters (Twitter) or a small comment box (Facebook)…

I suppose I’m one of the few who had never seen this bumper sticker until yesterday.  I do live in the heart of the Bible Belt and in a part of the US known as the Redneck Riveria; so I suppose I should not be surprised that I hadn’t seen one until now.

My own first thought on seeing it was – that’s *awesome*.  Kudos for whoever came up with it.  What a perfect expression of part of what’s wrong with the world today – we aren’t doing such a great job of co-existing, or even attempting to.  It may, in the end, be an impossible request; but even making a better attempt at it is still a worthy goal, I think.

So today, I went looking online to see if I could find one for myself.  And I was absolutely stunned by what I found in the process – by the amount of hatred and backlash caused by such a simple (and essentially peaceful) message.  The worst coming from a Congressional candidate in my own state (though not my district), to wit:

“As I was driving up here today, I saw that bumper sticker that absolutely incenses me.  It’s not the Obama bumper sticker. But it’s the bumper sticker that says, ‘Co-exist.’ And it has all the little religious symbols on it. And the reason why I get upset, and every time I see one of those bumper stickers, I look at the person inside that is driving. Because that person represents something that would give away our country. Would give away who we are, our rights and freedoms and liberties because they are afraid to stand up and confront that which is the antithesis, anathema of who we are. The liberties that we want to enjoy.

Wait…what?  The liberties that I want to enjoy do tend to include things like freedom of religion.  Last I checked, that meant all of them – not just the one I subscribe to or that the majority subscribe to.  I have friends of just about every faith out there (and no faith at all as well); Jewish friends, Muslim friends, Baha’i friends, Buddhist friends, Wiccan friends, Pagan friends, agnostic friends, and atheist friends.  ALL are good people, or they would not be my friends in the first place.  ALL are people who live by the same basic values that anyone who calls themselves a Christian should – kindness, honesty, charity, fairness, et cetera.  And let’s face it, good deeds even if done in the name of evil are still good deeds; and conversely (and IMO more importantly), evil deeds done in the name of Good are still evil deeds.

It is not the subscription to or profession of any given faith (or lack of one either) that makes a person essentially good or evil, it is how you live and the actions you take that are the yardstick to be measured by – and I firmly believe that even the Bible supports this, over and over (note, not talking about what makes one saved or redeemed in a religion – just what makes a person basically good, or evil).  The Good Samaritan.  The sinner who anointed Christ’s feet.  The thief on the cross.  These were not being held up as examples of ‘the faithful’, by any means – but as examples of how ‘the faithful’ should act, that forgiveness is available to all, and kindness is not limited to just ‘the faithful’ (and in fact, the ‘faithful’ can be unkind as well).  It is not someone’s faith that makes them ‘good’ or ‘evil’ in my experience (though, good people certainly can be led to bad deeds via misguided faith, I agree; but that can happen with *any* faith.  Anyone who thinks that evil cannot be done in the name of Christianity also, has not paid attention to their history lessons.  And, how would you feel, if the ‘face’ of your religion to the rest of the world was someone like the ‘Reverend’ Jim Jones, for example?  If extremists like him and his followers were what people in non-Christian nations mostly saw or knew of your faith?  Is it so hard to understand that some of the ‘faces’ of Islam that make the news worldwide, are similarly not the true or real faces of Islam?  There is nothing news-worthy about people quietly going about their worship, after all…)

I read dozens of comments from Christians (about this simple bumper sticker) that claimed that it meant that one must accept that there is more than one God – even that this simple bumper sticker was an outright demand that one must embrace all differing beliefs and faiths.  This puzzled me as well – maybe they do not actually know the definition of the word ‘coexist’?  From the Online Dictionary:


1. To exist together, at the same time, or in the same place.
2. To live in peace with another or others despite differences.

I’m sorry, I don’t think I see anywhere in that definition that you must embrace differences.  Nothing that says you must accept them, either.  What is says is to live in peace, despite the differences.  What I see in that is nothing more than a request to live, and let live.  I do not get what anyone finds so offensive, or threatening, about that message or idea.  I don’t even find it to be particularly liberal in nature.  I honestly do not understand what can possibly be so terrible, or so un-Christian, or even un-American about the idea of living in peace with another, despite your differences.  I don’t see how that one simple ideal, to live in peace with others (even if it’s nothing we can ever manage to fully attain), runs counter in any way to either the Christian faith or the nation’s foundation.  I just do not understand.  I don’t think I ever will.

I also found a counter bumper-sticker that had a message that said something like ‘how can I coexist with someone who wants to kill me?’  And again I’d say – that is the same reduction to ‘us vs. them’ that causes so many problems in the first place.  The millions of Muslims in the world do not want to eradicate the millions of Christians, Buddhists, Jews…the majority of them just want the same things anyone else wants.  To be able to live and worship in peace.  It is the extremists, the outliers, that want violence and death; and it’s not so hard to paint the great unknown as being the very embodiment of evil, is it?  That operates heavily on both sides, IMO.  They are told that we all want to eradicate them, we are told that they all want to eradicate us; and nobody tries to find out for themselves whether that’s really true or not.  It is really just fear of the unknown talking, that bumper sticker.  Understandable, if all you know is what you’ve gleaned from the news.

I fully realize that even the Devil can quote Scripture: but, I cannot believe that this message in any way runs counter to the message of the ‘Coexist’ bumper sticker.  From Matthew 25:31-46:

 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.   

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’   

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’   

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’   

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

   44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

   45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

   46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

One may of course choose to interpret ‘brothers and sisters’ to mean only ‘brothers and sisters in Christ’; but I have always believed and always will believe that humankind, all of it, is what is meant.  If you believe that God created man in his own image, then to me you also must believe that all of humankind are brothers and sisters; be they saint, sinner, unbeliever, or of a different faith.

Honestly – how can any of us take such a simple concept, such a simple message as this bumper sticker is trying to convey, and blow it so far out of proportion?  Is it really asking so much, to just let people follow their own paths?

(as an aside – I do not intend to blog about religious or political things in general, this was just the first thing that happened to come up that I was motivated enough to write about, *grin*.  I am usually the first person to leave any given conversation if it turns too sharply to either religion or politics, just because the potential to give offense (unintentionally) is so high with either one.  What motivated me to join the fray on this one was that I could not understand why this (seemingly) small thing would be so threatening, to provoke such harsh responses, and from so many as well.)

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